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		<title>By: Ryo Vie</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is an interesting album. It's that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). 

My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</description>
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<p>My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/07/ridiculous-voices#comment-21904</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don't think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It's difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It's the reason that shows like "Everybody Loves Raymond" or "Law and Order" can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like "Arrested Development" falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism's effect on it. In comparison, "Everybody Loves Raymond" is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.

Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren't specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song "Pride (In The Name of Love)", which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song's feeling (apparently, according to the book "U2 Limited"). I don't think it's a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I'm not saying that isn't a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he's preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don&#8217;t think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It&#8217;s difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It&#8217;s the reason that shows like &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; or &#8220;Law and Order&#8221; can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like &#8220;Arrested Development&#8221; falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism&#8217;s effect on it. In comparison, &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.</p>
<p>Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren&#8217;t specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song &#8220;Pride (In The Name of Love)&#8221;, which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song&#8217;s feeling (apparently, according to the book &#8220;U2 Limited&#8221;). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I&#8217;m not saying that isn&#8217;t a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he&#8217;s preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Perpetua</title>
		<link>http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/07/ridiculous-voices#comment-21903</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Perpetua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is my second favorite U2 album after Achtung Baby. There are very, very few albums that I love as much as Achtung Baby.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob K</title>
		<link>http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/07/ridiculous-voices#comment-21902</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how "Numb" was a really underrated single....listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it's just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how &#8220;Numb&#8221; was a really underrated single&#8230;.listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it&#8217;s just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferris</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are tour thoughts on "Zooropa" as an album? Although never a huge U2 fan, I love their mid-era material, and always felt that album in particular was given short shrift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are tour thoughts on &#8220;Zooropa&#8221; as an album? Although never a huge U2 fan, I love their mid-era material, and always felt that album in particular was given short shrift.</p>
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		<title>By: Imon</title>
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		<title>By: Ryo Vie</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is an interesting album. It's that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). 

My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zooropa is an interesting album. It&#8217;s that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). </p>
<p>My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/07/ridiculous-voices#comment-21904</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don't think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It's difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It's the reason that shows like "Everybody Loves Raymond" or "Law and Order" can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like "Arrested Development" falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism's effect on it. In comparison, "Everybody Loves Raymond" is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.

Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren't specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song "Pride (In The Name of Love)", which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song's feeling (apparently, according to the book "U2 Limited"). I don't think it's a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I'm not saying that isn't a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he's preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don&#8217;t think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It&#8217;s difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It&#8217;s the reason that shows like &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; or &#8220;Law and Order&#8221; can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like &#8220;Arrested Development&#8221; falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism&#8217;s effect on it. In comparison, &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.</p>
<p>Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren&#8217;t specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song &#8220;Pride (In The Name of Love)&#8221;, which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song&#8217;s feeling (apparently, according to the book &#8220;U2 Limited&#8221;). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I&#8217;m not saying that isn&#8217;t a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he&#8217;s preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Perpetua</title>
		<link>http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/07/ridiculous-voices#comment-21903</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Perpetua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is my second favorite U2 album after Achtung Baby. There are very, very few albums that I love as much as Achtung Baby.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob K</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how "Numb" was a really underrated single....listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it's just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how &#8220;Numb&#8221; was a really underrated single&#8230;.listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it&#8217;s just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferris</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are tour thoughts on "Zooropa" as an album? Although never a huge U2 fan, I love their mid-era material, and always felt that album in particular was given short shrift.</description>
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		<title>By: Imon</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is an interesting album. It's that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). 

My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zooropa is an interesting album. It&#8217;s that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). </p>
<p>My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is an interesting album. It's that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). 

My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zooropa is an interesting album. It&#8217;s that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). </p>
<p>My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/07/ridiculous-voices#comment-21904</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don't think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It's difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It's the reason that shows like "Everybody Loves Raymond" or "Law and Order" can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like "Arrested Development" falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism's effect on it. In comparison, "Everybody Loves Raymond" is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.

Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren't specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song "Pride (In The Name of Love)", which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song's feeling (apparently, according to the book "U2 Limited"). I don't think it's a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I'm not saying that isn't a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he's preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don&#8217;t think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It&#8217;s difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It&#8217;s the reason that shows like &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; or &#8220;Law and Order&#8221; can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like &#8220;Arrested Development&#8221; falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism&#8217;s effect on it. In comparison, &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.</p>
<p>Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren&#8217;t specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song &#8220;Pride (In The Name of Love)&#8221;, which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song&#8217;s feeling (apparently, according to the book &#8220;U2 Limited&#8221;). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I&#8217;m not saying that isn&#8217;t a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he&#8217;s preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Perpetua</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is my second favorite U2 album after Achtung Baby. There are very, very few albums that I love as much as Achtung Baby.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob K</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how "Numb" was a really underrated single....listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it's just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how &#8220;Numb&#8221; was a really underrated single&#8230;.listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it&#8217;s just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferris</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are tour thoughts on "Zooropa" as an album? Although never a huge U2 fan, I love their mid-era material, and always felt that album in particular was given short shrift.</description>
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		<title>By: Imon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don't think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It's difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It's the reason that shows like "Everybody Loves Raymond" or "Law and Order" can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like "Arrested Development" falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism's effect on it. In comparison, "Everybody Loves Raymond" is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.

Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren't specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song "Pride (In The Name of Love)", which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song's feeling (apparently, according to the book "U2 Limited"). I don't think it's a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I'm not saying that isn't a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he's preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don&#8217;t think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It&#8217;s difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It&#8217;s the reason that shows like &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; or &#8220;Law and Order&#8221; can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like &#8220;Arrested Development&#8221; falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism&#8217;s effect on it. In comparison, &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.</p>
<p>Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren&#8217;t specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song &#8220;Pride (In The Name of Love)&#8221;, which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song&#8217;s feeling (apparently, according to the book &#8220;U2 Limited&#8221;). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I&#8217;m not saying that isn&#8217;t a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he&#8217;s preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryo Vie</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is an interesting album. It's that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). 

My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</description>
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<p>My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don't think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It's difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It's the reason that shows like "Everybody Loves Raymond" or "Law and Order" can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like "Arrested Development" falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism's effect on it. In comparison, "Everybody Loves Raymond" is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.

Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren't specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song "Pride (In The Name of Love)", which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song's feeling (apparently, according to the book "U2 Limited"). I don't think it's a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I'm not saying that isn't a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he's preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don&#8217;t think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It&#8217;s difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It&#8217;s the reason that shows like &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; or &#8220;Law and Order&#8221; can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like &#8220;Arrested Development&#8221; falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism&#8217;s effect on it. In comparison, &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.</p>
<p>Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren&#8217;t specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song &#8220;Pride (In The Name of Love)&#8221;, which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song&#8217;s feeling (apparently, according to the book &#8220;U2 Limited&#8221;). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I&#8217;m not saying that isn&#8217;t a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he&#8217;s preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Perpetua</title>
		<link>http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/07/ridiculous-voices#comment-21903</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Perpetua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is my second favorite U2 album after Achtung Baby. There are very, very few albums that I love as much as Achtung Baby.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob K</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how "Numb" was a really underrated single....listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it's just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how &#8220;Numb&#8221; was a really underrated single&#8230;.listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it&#8217;s just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ferris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are tour thoughts on "Zooropa" as an album? Although never a huge U2 fan, I love their mid-era material, and always felt that album in particular was given short shrift.</description>
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		<title>By: Imon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is my second favorite U2 album after Achtung Baby. There are very, very few albums that I love as much as Achtung Baby.</description>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is an interesting album. It's that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). 

My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zooropa is an interesting album. It&#8217;s that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). </p>
<p>My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don't think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It's difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It's the reason that shows like "Everybody Loves Raymond" or "Law and Order" can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like "Arrested Development" falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism's effect on it. In comparison, "Everybody Loves Raymond" is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.

Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren't specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song "Pride (In The Name of Love)", which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song's feeling (apparently, according to the book "U2 Limited"). I don't think it's a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I'm not saying that isn't a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he's preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don&#8217;t think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It&#8217;s difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It&#8217;s the reason that shows like &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; or &#8220;Law and Order&#8221; can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like &#8220;Arrested Development&#8221; falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism&#8217;s effect on it. In comparison, &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.</p>
<p>Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren&#8217;t specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song &#8220;Pride (In The Name of Love)&#8221;, which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song&#8217;s feeling (apparently, according to the book &#8220;U2 Limited&#8221;). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I&#8217;m not saying that isn&#8217;t a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he&#8217;s preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Perpetua</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is my second favorite U2 album after Achtung Baby. There are very, very few albums that I love as much as Achtung Baby.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob K</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how "Numb" was a really underrated single....listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it's just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how &#8220;Numb&#8221; was a really underrated single&#8230;.listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it&#8217;s just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are tour thoughts on "Zooropa" as an album? Although never a huge U2 fan, I love their mid-era material, and always felt that album in particular was given short shrift.</description>
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		<description>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how "Numb" was a really underrated single....listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it's just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how &#8220;Numb&#8221; was a really underrated single&#8230;.listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it&#8217;s just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</p>
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		<description>Zooropa is an interesting album. It's that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). 

My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zooropa is an interesting album. It&#8217;s that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). </p>
<p>My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don't think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It's difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It's the reason that shows like "Everybody Loves Raymond" or "Law and Order" can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like "Arrested Development" falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism's effect on it. In comparison, "Everybody Loves Raymond" is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.

Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren't specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song "Pride (In The Name of Love)", which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song's feeling (apparently, according to the book "U2 Limited"). I don't think it's a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I'm not saying that isn't a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he's preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don&#8217;t think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It&#8217;s difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It&#8217;s the reason that shows like &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; or &#8220;Law and Order&#8221; can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like &#8220;Arrested Development&#8221; falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism&#8217;s effect on it. In comparison, &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.</p>
<p>Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren&#8217;t specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song &#8220;Pride (In The Name of Love)&#8221;, which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song&#8217;s feeling (apparently, according to the book &#8220;U2 Limited&#8221;). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I&#8217;m not saying that isn&#8217;t a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he&#8217;s preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Perpetua</title>
		<link>http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/07/ridiculous-voices#comment-21903</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is my second favorite U2 album after Achtung Baby. There are very, very few albums that I love as much as Achtung Baby.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob K</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how "Numb" was a really underrated single....listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it's just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how &#8220;Numb&#8221; was a really underrated single&#8230;.listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it&#8217;s just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferris</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are tour thoughts on "Zooropa" as an album? Although never a huge U2 fan, I love their mid-era material, and always felt that album in particular was given short shrift.</description>
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		<title>By: Imon</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are tour thoughts on "Zooropa" as an album? Although never a huge U2 fan, I love their mid-era material, and always felt that album in particular was given short shrift.</description>
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		<title>By: Ryo Vie</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 12:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is an interesting album. It's that in-between album that was not quite the masterpiece Acthung Baby was and not quite the disappointment that Pop was. It falls somewhere in the middle and it also has The Edge singing lead on a song (pretty cool). 

My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</description>
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<p>My favorite moment from Zooropa though is Johnny Cash singing The Wanderer. What a great song!</p>
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		<title>By: Clark</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 08:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don't think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It's difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It's the reason that shows like "Everybody Loves Raymond" or "Law and Order" can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like "Arrested Development" falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism's effect on it. In comparison, "Everybody Loves Raymond" is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.

Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren't specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song "Pride (In The Name of Love)", which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song's feeling (apparently, according to the book "U2 Limited"). I don't think it's a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I'm not saying that isn't a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he's preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to respectfully disagree on this point. I don&#8217;t think that staying underground as an artist is a result of willfully shirking your responsibility to engage with as large an audience as possible. To me it has more to do with challenging and imaginative artists engaging with nuanced and difficult ideas that have a harder time reaching a broad audience. It&#8217;s difficult to be both populist and subtle in the way you deal with an issue. Generating a mass audience requires to some extent that you streamline ideas into simple, easily relatable content. It&#8217;s the reason that shows like &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; or &#8220;Law and Order&#8221; can be so popular and something genuinely complex and interesting like &#8220;Arrested Development&#8221; falters in the ratings. The former two require very little from their audience and paint things in broad strokes whereas the latter rewards only those with the patience to engage with not only the show itself, but also news current to its airing and references to cultural touch points in the preceding decades. All of these things serve to make AD a rich, intricate and thoughtful satire of the American family and capitalism&#8217;s effect on it. In comparison, &#8220;Everybody Loves Raymond&#8221; is a very simple comedy about a kuh-razee family that has little more to say besides families are important, but difficult and sometimes kuh-razee.</p>
<p>Likewise, I find it pretty disingenuous for one of the biggest bands in the world to call out other artists for not engaging as many people as possible with their art. U2 is huge because they aren&#8217;t specific and they engage with an audience on a surface level. Bono has even admitted dissatisfaction with the lyrics of their most popular song &#8220;Pride (In The Name of Love)&#8221;, which were left impressionistic in order to give added force to the song&#8217;s feeling (apparently, according to the book &#8220;U2 Limited&#8221;). I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a stretch to say that the song boils down to standing by your ideals even in times of great strife. I&#8217;m not saying that isn&#8217;t a noble sentiment, but are there a lot of people out there vehemently disagreeing with the idea? Who (if anyone) is being converted to this idea after hearing the song? If no one is being pushed into an internal or external dialogue after hearing the idea, then Bono is more or less preaching to believers. So why does it matter if he&#8217;s preaching to 10 or 10 million believers?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Perpetua</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zooropa is my second favorite U2 album after Achtung Baby. There are very, very few albums that I love as much as Achtung Baby.</description>
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		<title>By: Bob K</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how "Numb" was a really underrated single....listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it's just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel the same way.  Zooropa is the only U2 album I will listen to.  I was actually listening to it last week and reflecting on how &#8220;Numb&#8221; was a really underrated single&#8230;.listening to it in 2011 and it sounds like it&#8217;s just a few tweaks away from being a great LCD Soundsystem song.</p>
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		<title>By: Ferris</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are tour thoughts on "Zooropa" as an album? Although never a huge U2 fan, I love their mid-era material, and always felt that album in particular was given short shrift.</description>
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		<title>By: Imon</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit clunky as a whole..,But the intro is classic incredible and the release is smashing!</description>
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