Comments on: This Time The World Did What It Told Me It Would http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21367 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:19 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21367 I'll Replace you with Machines!!!! I’ll Replace you with Machines!!!!

]]> By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21366 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:10 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21366 I agree with everyone. The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90's-2000's were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison's Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine... Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences. The 90's shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well. For me, it's a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list. I agree with everyone.

The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90’s-2000’s were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison’s Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine… Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences.

The 90’s shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well.

For me, it’s a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list.

]]> By: Hermann http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21363 Hermann Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:24:18 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21363 I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in '96, too. I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in ‘96, too.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21257 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21257 If that's Jim Greer -- your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that. If that’s Jim Greer — your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that.

]]> By: Greer http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21256 Greer Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21256 <> Uh, no. The classic lineup was exactly as advertised... Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob. <>

Uh, no.

The classic lineup was exactly as advertised… Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21254 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21254 That's kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don't think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn't bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation ("Hey kids, I promise this one'll rock" and such) but he doesn't let himself go -- he doesn't degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that's strangely part of what he always stood for. That’s kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don’t think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn’t bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation (”Hey kids, I promise this one’ll rock” and such) but he doesn’t let himself go — he doesn’t degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that’s strangely part of what he always stood for.

]]> By: Matthew Perpetua http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21253 Matthew Perpetua Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21253 Ha, isn't slurring just part of the Pollard experience? Ha, isn’t slurring just part of the Pollard experience?

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21252 hotelier Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21252 For some reason I hate the live recordings where it's obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard... For some reason I hate the live recordings where it’s obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard…

]]> By: jay http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21251 jay Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21251 The idea of a "classic lineup" for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren't they always fairly fluid? I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven't even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn't realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV's popularity is likely skewed a little. The idea of a “classic lineup” for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren’t they always fairly fluid?

I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven’t even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn’t realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV’s popularity is likely skewed a little.

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 Comments on: This Time The World Did What It Told Me It Would http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21367 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:19 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21367 I'll Replace you with Machines!!!! I’ll Replace you with Machines!!!!

]]> By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21366 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:10 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21366 I agree with everyone. The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90's-2000's were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison's Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine... Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences. The 90's shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well. For me, it's a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list. I agree with everyone.

The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90’s-2000’s were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison’s Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine… Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences.

The 90’s shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well.

For me, it’s a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list.

]]> By: Hermann http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21363 Hermann Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:24:18 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21363 I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in '96, too. I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in ‘96, too.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21257 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21257 If that's Jim Greer -- your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that. If that’s Jim Greer — your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that.

]]> By: Greer http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21256 Greer Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21256 <> Uh, no. The classic lineup was exactly as advertised... Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob. <>

Uh, no.

The classic lineup was exactly as advertised… Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21254 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21254 That's kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don't think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn't bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation ("Hey kids, I promise this one'll rock" and such) but he doesn't let himself go -- he doesn't degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that's strangely part of what he always stood for. That’s kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don’t think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn’t bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation (”Hey kids, I promise this one’ll rock” and such) but he doesn’t let himself go — he doesn’t degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that’s strangely part of what he always stood for.

]]> By: Matthew Perpetua http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21253 Matthew Perpetua Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21253 Ha, isn't slurring just part of the Pollard experience? Ha, isn’t slurring just part of the Pollard experience?

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21252 hotelier Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21252 For some reason I hate the live recordings where it's obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard... For some reason I hate the live recordings where it’s obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard…

]]> By: jay http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21251 jay Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21251 The idea of a "classic lineup" for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren't they always fairly fluid? I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven't even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn't realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV's popularity is likely skewed a little. The idea of a “classic lineup” for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren’t they always fairly fluid?

I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven’t even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn’t realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV’s popularity is likely skewed a little.

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21367 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:19 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21367 I'll Replace you with Machines!!!! I’ll Replace you with Machines!!!!

]]> Comments on: This Time The World Did What It Told Me It Would http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21367 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:19 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21367 I'll Replace you with Machines!!!! I’ll Replace you with Machines!!!!

]]> By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21366 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:10 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21366 I agree with everyone. The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90's-2000's were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison's Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine... Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences. The 90's shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well. For me, it's a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list. I agree with everyone.

The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90’s-2000’s were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison’s Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine… Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences.

The 90’s shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well.

For me, it’s a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list.

]]> By: Hermann http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21363 Hermann Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:24:18 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21363 I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in '96, too. I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in ‘96, too.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21257 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21257 If that's Jim Greer -- your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that. If that’s Jim Greer — your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that.

]]> By: Greer http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21256 Greer Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21256 <> Uh, no. The classic lineup was exactly as advertised... Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob. <>

Uh, no.

The classic lineup was exactly as advertised… Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21254 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21254 That's kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don't think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn't bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation ("Hey kids, I promise this one'll rock" and such) but he doesn't let himself go -- he doesn't degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that's strangely part of what he always stood for. That’s kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don’t think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn’t bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation (”Hey kids, I promise this one’ll rock” and such) but he doesn’t let himself go — he doesn’t degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that’s strangely part of what he always stood for.

]]> By: Matthew Perpetua http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21253 Matthew Perpetua Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21253 Ha, isn't slurring just part of the Pollard experience? Ha, isn’t slurring just part of the Pollard experience?

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21252 hotelier Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21252 For some reason I hate the live recordings where it's obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard... For some reason I hate the live recordings where it’s obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard…

]]> By: jay http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21251 jay Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21251 The idea of a "classic lineup" for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren't they always fairly fluid? I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven't even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn't realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV's popularity is likely skewed a little. The idea of a “classic lineup” for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren’t they always fairly fluid?

I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven’t even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn’t realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV’s popularity is likely skewed a little.

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21366 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:10 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21366 I agree with everyone. The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90's-2000's were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison's Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine... Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences. The 90's shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well. For me, it's a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list. I agree with everyone.

The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90’s-2000’s were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison’s Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine… Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences.

The 90’s shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well.

For me, it’s a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list.

]]> Comments on: This Time The World Did What It Told Me It Would http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21367 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:19 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21367 I'll Replace you with Machines!!!! I’ll Replace you with Machines!!!!

]]> By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21366 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:10 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21366 I agree with everyone. The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90's-2000's were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison's Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine... Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences. The 90's shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well. For me, it's a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list. I agree with everyone.

The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90’s-2000’s were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison’s Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine… Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences.

The 90’s shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well.

For me, it’s a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list.

]]> By: Hermann http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21363 Hermann Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:24:18 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21363 I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in '96, too. I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in ‘96, too.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21257 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21257 If that's Jim Greer -- your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that. If that’s Jim Greer — your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that.

]]> By: Greer http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21256 Greer Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21256 <> Uh, no. The classic lineup was exactly as advertised... Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob. <>

Uh, no.

The classic lineup was exactly as advertised… Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21254 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21254 That's kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don't think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn't bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation ("Hey kids, I promise this one'll rock" and such) but he doesn't let himself go -- he doesn't degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that's strangely part of what he always stood for. That’s kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don’t think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn’t bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation (”Hey kids, I promise this one’ll rock” and such) but he doesn’t let himself go — he doesn’t degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that’s strangely part of what he always stood for.

]]> By: Matthew Perpetua http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21253 Matthew Perpetua Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21253 Ha, isn't slurring just part of the Pollard experience? Ha, isn’t slurring just part of the Pollard experience?

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21252 hotelier Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21252 For some reason I hate the live recordings where it's obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard... For some reason I hate the live recordings where it’s obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard…

]]> By: jay http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21251 jay Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21251 The idea of a "classic lineup" for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren't they always fairly fluid? I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven't even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn't realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV's popularity is likely skewed a little. The idea of a “classic lineup” for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren’t they always fairly fluid?

I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven’t even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn’t realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV’s popularity is likely skewed a little.

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21363 Hermann Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:24:18 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21363 I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in '96, too. I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in ‘96, too.

]]> Comments on: This Time The World Did What It Told Me It Would http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21367 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:19 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21367 I'll Replace you with Machines!!!! I’ll Replace you with Machines!!!!

]]> By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21366 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:10 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21366 I agree with everyone. The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90's-2000's were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison's Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine... Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences. The 90's shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well. For me, it's a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list. I agree with everyone.

The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90’s-2000’s were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison’s Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine… Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences.

The 90’s shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well.

For me, it’s a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list.

]]> By: Hermann http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21363 Hermann Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:24:18 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21363 I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in '96, too. I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in ‘96, too.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21257 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21257 If that's Jim Greer -- your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that. If that’s Jim Greer — your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that.

]]> By: Greer http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21256 Greer Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21256 <> Uh, no. The classic lineup was exactly as advertised... Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob. <>

Uh, no.

The classic lineup was exactly as advertised… Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21254 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21254 That's kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don't think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn't bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation ("Hey kids, I promise this one'll rock" and such) but he doesn't let himself go -- he doesn't degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that's strangely part of what he always stood for. That’s kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don’t think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn’t bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation (”Hey kids, I promise this one’ll rock” and such) but he doesn’t let himself go — he doesn’t degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that’s strangely part of what he always stood for.

]]> By: Matthew Perpetua http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21253 Matthew Perpetua Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21253 Ha, isn't slurring just part of the Pollard experience? Ha, isn’t slurring just part of the Pollard experience?

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21252 hotelier Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21252 For some reason I hate the live recordings where it's obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard... For some reason I hate the live recordings where it’s obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard…

]]> By: jay http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21251 jay Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21251 The idea of a "classic lineup" for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren't they always fairly fluid? I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven't even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn't realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV's popularity is likely skewed a little. The idea of a “classic lineup” for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren’t they always fairly fluid?

I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven’t even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn’t realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV’s popularity is likely skewed a little.

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21257 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21257 If that's Jim Greer -- your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that. If that’s Jim Greer — your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that.

]]> Comments on: This Time The World Did What It Told Me It Would http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21367 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:19 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21367 I'll Replace you with Machines!!!! I’ll Replace you with Machines!!!!

]]> By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21366 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:10 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21366 I agree with everyone. The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90's-2000's were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison's Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine... Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences. The 90's shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well. For me, it's a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list. I agree with everyone.

The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90’s-2000’s were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison’s Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine… Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences.

The 90’s shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well.

For me, it’s a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list.

]]> By: Hermann http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21363 Hermann Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:24:18 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21363 I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in '96, too. I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in ‘96, too.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21257 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21257 If that's Jim Greer -- your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that. If that’s Jim Greer — your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that.

]]> By: Greer http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21256 Greer Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21256 <> Uh, no. The classic lineup was exactly as advertised... Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob. <>

Uh, no.

The classic lineup was exactly as advertised… Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21254 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21254 That's kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don't think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn't bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation ("Hey kids, I promise this one'll rock" and such) but he doesn't let himself go -- he doesn't degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that's strangely part of what he always stood for. That’s kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don’t think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn’t bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation (”Hey kids, I promise this one’ll rock” and such) but he doesn’t let himself go — he doesn’t degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that’s strangely part of what he always stood for.

]]> By: Matthew Perpetua http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21253 Matthew Perpetua Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21253 Ha, isn't slurring just part of the Pollard experience? Ha, isn’t slurring just part of the Pollard experience?

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21252 hotelier Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21252 For some reason I hate the live recordings where it's obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard... For some reason I hate the live recordings where it’s obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard…

]]> By: jay http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21251 jay Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21251 The idea of a "classic lineup" for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren't they always fairly fluid? I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven't even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn't realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV's popularity is likely skewed a little. The idea of a “classic lineup” for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren’t they always fairly fluid?

I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven’t even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn’t realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV’s popularity is likely skewed a little.

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21256 Greer Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21256 <> Uh, no. The classic lineup was exactly as advertised... Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob. <>

Uh, no.

The classic lineup was exactly as advertised… Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob.

]]> Comments on: This Time The World Did What It Told Me It Would http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21367 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:19 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21367 I'll Replace you with Machines!!!! I’ll Replace you with Machines!!!!

]]> By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21366 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:10 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21366 I agree with everyone. The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90's-2000's were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison's Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine... Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences. The 90's shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well. For me, it's a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list. I agree with everyone.

The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90’s-2000’s were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison’s Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine… Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences.

The 90’s shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well.

For me, it’s a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list.

]]> By: Hermann http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21363 Hermann Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:24:18 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21363 I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in '96, too. I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in ‘96, too.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21257 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21257 If that's Jim Greer -- your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that. If that’s Jim Greer — your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that.

]]> By: Greer http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21256 Greer Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21256 <> Uh, no. The classic lineup was exactly as advertised... Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob. <>

Uh, no.

The classic lineup was exactly as advertised… Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21254 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21254 That's kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don't think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn't bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation ("Hey kids, I promise this one'll rock" and such) but he doesn't let himself go -- he doesn't degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that's strangely part of what he always stood for. That’s kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don’t think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn’t bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation (”Hey kids, I promise this one’ll rock” and such) but he doesn’t let himself go — he doesn’t degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that’s strangely part of what he always stood for.

]]> By: Matthew Perpetua http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21253 Matthew Perpetua Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21253 Ha, isn't slurring just part of the Pollard experience? Ha, isn’t slurring just part of the Pollard experience?

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21252 hotelier Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21252 For some reason I hate the live recordings where it's obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard... For some reason I hate the live recordings where it’s obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard…

]]> By: jay http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21251 jay Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21251 The idea of a "classic lineup" for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren't they always fairly fluid? I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven't even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn't realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV's popularity is likely skewed a little. The idea of a “classic lineup” for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren’t they always fairly fluid?

I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven’t even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn’t realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV’s popularity is likely skewed a little.

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21254 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21254 That's kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don't think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn't bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation ("Hey kids, I promise this one'll rock" and such) but he doesn't let himself go -- he doesn't degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that's strangely part of what he always stood for. That’s kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don’t think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn’t bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation (”Hey kids, I promise this one’ll rock” and such) but he doesn’t let himself go — he doesn’t degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that’s strangely part of what he always stood for.

]]> Comments on: This Time The World Did What It Told Me It Would http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21367 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:19 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21367 I'll Replace you with Machines!!!! I’ll Replace you with Machines!!!!

]]> By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21366 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:10 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21366 I agree with everyone. The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90's-2000's were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison's Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine... Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences. The 90's shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well. For me, it's a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list. I agree with everyone.

The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90’s-2000’s were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison’s Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine… Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences.

The 90’s shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well.

For me, it’s a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list.

]]> By: Hermann http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21363 Hermann Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:24:18 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21363 I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in '96, too. I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in ‘96, too.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21257 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21257 If that's Jim Greer -- your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that. If that’s Jim Greer — your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that.

]]> By: Greer http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21256 Greer Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21256 <> Uh, no. The classic lineup was exactly as advertised... Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob. <>

Uh, no.

The classic lineup was exactly as advertised… Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21254 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21254 That's kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don't think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn't bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation ("Hey kids, I promise this one'll rock" and such) but he doesn't let himself go -- he doesn't degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that's strangely part of what he always stood for. That’s kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don’t think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn’t bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation (”Hey kids, I promise this one’ll rock” and such) but he doesn’t let himself go — he doesn’t degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that’s strangely part of what he always stood for.

]]> By: Matthew Perpetua http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21253 Matthew Perpetua Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21253 Ha, isn't slurring just part of the Pollard experience? Ha, isn’t slurring just part of the Pollard experience?

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21252 hotelier Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21252 For some reason I hate the live recordings where it's obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard... For some reason I hate the live recordings where it’s obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard…

]]> By: jay http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21251 jay Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21251 The idea of a "classic lineup" for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren't they always fairly fluid? I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven't even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn't realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV's popularity is likely skewed a little. The idea of a “classic lineup” for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren’t they always fairly fluid?

I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven’t even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn’t realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV’s popularity is likely skewed a little.

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21253 Matthew Perpetua Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21253 Ha, isn't slurring just part of the Pollard experience? Ha, isn’t slurring just part of the Pollard experience?

]]> Comments on: This Time The World Did What It Told Me It Would http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21367 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:19 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21367 I'll Replace you with Machines!!!! I’ll Replace you with Machines!!!!

]]> By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21366 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:10 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21366 I agree with everyone. The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90's-2000's were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison's Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine... Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences. The 90's shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well. For me, it's a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list. I agree with everyone.

The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90’s-2000’s were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison’s Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine… Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences.

The 90’s shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well.

For me, it’s a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list.

]]> By: Hermann http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21363 Hermann Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:24:18 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21363 I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in '96, too. I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in ‘96, too.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21257 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21257 If that's Jim Greer -- your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that. If that’s Jim Greer — your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that.

]]> By: Greer http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21256 Greer Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21256 <> Uh, no. The classic lineup was exactly as advertised... Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob. <>

Uh, no.

The classic lineup was exactly as advertised… Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21254 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21254 That's kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don't think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn't bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation ("Hey kids, I promise this one'll rock" and such) but he doesn't let himself go -- he doesn't degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that's strangely part of what he always stood for. That’s kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don’t think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn’t bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation (”Hey kids, I promise this one’ll rock” and such) but he doesn’t let himself go — he doesn’t degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that’s strangely part of what he always stood for.

]]> By: Matthew Perpetua http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21253 Matthew Perpetua Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21253 Ha, isn't slurring just part of the Pollard experience? Ha, isn’t slurring just part of the Pollard experience?

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21252 hotelier Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21252 For some reason I hate the live recordings where it's obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard... For some reason I hate the live recordings where it’s obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard…

]]> By: jay http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21251 jay Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21251 The idea of a "classic lineup" for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren't they always fairly fluid? I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven't even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn't realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV's popularity is likely skewed a little. The idea of a “classic lineup” for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren’t they always fairly fluid?

I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven’t even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn’t realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV’s popularity is likely skewed a little.

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21252 hotelier Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21252 For some reason I hate the live recordings where it's obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard... For some reason I hate the live recordings where it’s obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard…

]]> Comments on: This Time The World Did What It Told Me It Would http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21367 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:19 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21367 I'll Replace you with Machines!!!! I’ll Replace you with Machines!!!!

]]> By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21366 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:10 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21366 I agree with everyone. The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90's-2000's were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison's Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine... Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences. The 90's shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well. For me, it's a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list. I agree with everyone.

The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90’s-2000’s were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison’s Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine… Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences.

The 90’s shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well.

For me, it’s a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list.

]]> By: Hermann http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21363 Hermann Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:24:18 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21363 I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in '96, too. I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in ‘96, too.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21257 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21257 If that's Jim Greer -- your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that. If that’s Jim Greer — your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that.

]]> By: Greer http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21256 Greer Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21256 <> Uh, no. The classic lineup was exactly as advertised... Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob. <>

Uh, no.

The classic lineup was exactly as advertised… Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21254 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21254 That's kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don't think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn't bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation ("Hey kids, I promise this one'll rock" and such) but he doesn't let himself go -- he doesn't degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that's strangely part of what he always stood for. That’s kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don’t think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn’t bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation (”Hey kids, I promise this one’ll rock” and such) but he doesn’t let himself go — he doesn’t degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that’s strangely part of what he always stood for.

]]> By: Matthew Perpetua http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21253 Matthew Perpetua Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21253 Ha, isn't slurring just part of the Pollard experience? Ha, isn’t slurring just part of the Pollard experience?

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21252 hotelier Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21252 For some reason I hate the live recordings where it's obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard... For some reason I hate the live recordings where it’s obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard…

]]> By: jay http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21251 jay Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21251 The idea of a "classic lineup" for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren't they always fairly fluid? I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven't even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn't realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV's popularity is likely skewed a little. The idea of a “classic lineup” for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren’t they always fairly fluid?

I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven’t even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn’t realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV’s popularity is likely skewed a little.

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21251 jay Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21251 The idea of a "classic lineup" for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren't they always fairly fluid? I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven't even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn't realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV's popularity is likely skewed a little. The idea of a “classic lineup” for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren’t they always fairly fluid?

I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven’t even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn’t realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV’s popularity is likely skewed a little.

]]> Comments on: This Time The World Did What It Told Me It Would http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would Wed, 23 May 2012 23:58:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21367 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:37:19 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21367 I'll Replace you with Machines!!!! I’ll Replace you with Machines!!!!

]]> By: isawacat http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21366 isawacat Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:34:10 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21366 I agree with everyone. The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90's-2000's were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison's Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine... Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences. The 90's shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well. For me, it's a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list. I agree with everyone.

The classic line-up is the classic line-up. Hands down. But the set-lists during the Late 90’s-2000’s were EPIC. Just EPIC. The height of the Fading Captain Series, getting to hear Subspace Biographies, Make Use, Edison’s Memos, Beg for a Wheelbarrow, Big School, Surgical Focus, Pop Zeus, Red Ink Superman, Fair Touching (Fair Touching is such a good song) Anything off of Kid Marine… Cheyenne!! Plus the old stuff. Dear god those shows were near religious experiences.

The 90’s shows were a grab bag of insane awesomeness. Bob should just do a tour with that line-up as well.

For me, it’s a case of Classic line-up vs. Classic set list.

]]> By: Hermann http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21363 Hermann Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:24:18 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21363 I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in '96, too. I agree with Greer. Sorry if you got to the party late, but not all flavors of GbV are the same. And there were plenty of drunken sing-alongs in ‘96, too.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21257 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 23:20:53 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21257 If that's Jim Greer -- your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that. If that’s Jim Greer — your book was great and you are of course right. Even the new gold standard, Wikipedia, backs that.

]]> By: Greer http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21256 Greer Tue, 01 Mar 2011 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21256 <> Uh, no. The classic lineup was exactly as advertised... Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob. <>

Uh, no.

The classic lineup was exactly as advertised… Sprout, Fennell, Mitchell, Demos and Uncle Bob.

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21254 hotelier Tue, 01 Mar 2011 02:44:03 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21254 That's kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don't think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn't bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation ("Hey kids, I promise this one'll rock" and such) but he doesn't let himself go -- he doesn't degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that's strangely part of what he always stood for. That’s kind of an aesthetic question with this band, maybe uniquely (I don’t think people necessarily enjoyed listening to falling-down drunk Mats), and somehow it hasn’t bothered me much in person, but it makes me a bit sad to listen to it. On Jellyfish Reflector there is some desperation (”Hey kids, I promise this one’ll rock” and such) but he doesn’t let himself go — he doesn’t degrade the songs. So maybe the slurring is the evidence of a certain lack of pride and craft to me, and that’s strangely part of what he always stood for.

]]> By: Matthew Perpetua http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21253 Matthew Perpetua Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21253 Ha, isn't slurring just part of the Pollard experience? Ha, isn’t slurring just part of the Pollard experience?

]]> By: hotelier http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21252 hotelier Mon, 28 Feb 2011 22:22:06 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21252 For some reason I hate the live recordings where it's obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard... For some reason I hate the live recordings where it’s obvious Bob (if I may) is slurring. For that reason Jellyfish Reflector will apparently always be the gold standard…

]]> By: jay http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21251 jay Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:33:20 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21251 The idea of a "classic lineup" for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren't they always fairly fluid? I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven't even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn't realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV's popularity is likely skewed a little. The idea of a “classic lineup” for GBV seems like a joke to me. Weren’t they always fairly fluid?

I liked Bee Thousand and a few others in the mid-90s when I was in high school but for some reason lost interest by the late 90s and haven’t even listened to GBV or Robert Pollard since. I saw them in the mid-90s, and even then they were putting on a pretty drunken, goofy show. I thought they were a fairly well-established act with Robert Pollard and Tobin Sprout, et al, through the 90s. I guess I didn’t realize that they became more popular after Mag Earwhig! or whatever. Of course, I lived in Dayton for awhile and always had friends there even though I spent most of the 90s elsewhere, so my perspective on GBV’s popularity is likely skewed a little.

]]> By: Jimmy http://www.fluxblog.org/2011/02/this-time-the-world-did-what-it-told-me-it-would#comment-21250 Jimmy Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:01:23 +0000 http://www.fluxblog.org/?p=3911#comment-21250 Man, this post perfectly captures my feelings about the reunion show I saw last year. Downloading Live in Daytron now. Thanks. Man, this post perfectly captures my feelings about the reunion show I saw last year. Downloading Live in Daytron now. Thanks.

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