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Blah — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 04:42:23 +0000

That didn’t read like I intended. When Gaga spends nine hours a day designing her outfits, on almost a daily basis and still finds the time to go out and show them off; then you can call her the next Leigh Bowery. All of Bowery’s looks were his own, no one ever designed anything for him. I don’t see how Gaga can be compared to Westwood at all. She is simlar James St. James in the sense that she’s a rich kid, but she haunted Hipster Clubs and never visited Parties or Bars that attracted gay men until the release date of her first album was nearing.

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Blah — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 04:36:41 +0000

Grace Jones’ biggest followers have always been gay men, of every ethnicity. She built up her following in Gay Clubs like The Paradise Garage and by hanging around (at least when a photo-op presented itself) Gay Icons like Divine and Warhol. She was bigger in countries like the UK and France than she ever was in the US. And like Minaj, I don’t think she’s African American nor does she live in America today.
It’s also unfair to compare Gaga to Bowery. When Gaga spends nine hours a day designing all of her looks herself then she can be compared to Leigh Bowery, but really she’s a poor man’s Grace Jones.

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Meesy — Tue, 14 Sep 2010 07:49:19 +0000

Nicki Minaj is actually from Trinidad and Tobago. She’s not the African American answer to anything. Not everyone black in the USA is African American.

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Teenageart — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:03:07 +0000

Actually, UGHHHH, Lady Gaga has more in common with designers like Vivienne Westwood and performers like Leigh Bowery and James St James - she’s more unhinged baroque/club kid than the skewed and slick ultra-cool of Grace Jones. Gaga’s also drawing on David Bowie’s alien glam and Elton John’s showmanship - you know the guy who would perform at a piano in a Donald Duck outfit?

And Matthew’s right - Lady Gaga has popularized a form of Bowery-like drag that was huge in the gay and club communities about two years ago, and it’s forced some of her competitors - notably Rihanna - to play catch up. Her popularity has made someone like Minaj seem bankable instead of niche. Grace Jones is awesome for many reasons, but she’s not the only originator of outre pop performance.

Oh, and if you don’t know Leigh Bowery - watch this and prepare to shit your pants:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-StXakMMNw

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STINKY — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 05:46:58 +0000

ALLS STINKY WANTS TO KNOW IS WHO THAT GIRL IN THE USHER VIDEO PLACEHOLDER-CUM-THUMBNAIL STILL-IMAGE-DINGUS IS, AND IF HE CAN HAVE HALF A DOZEN OF HER TO GO

EDIT: BY WHICH I MEAN THE WHITE (?) GIRL. BUT I’LL TAKE THE BLACK GIRL TOO!

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UGHHHH — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:14:38 +0000

i know the writer is aware of grace jones, my post was largely sarcasm. like “oh you don’t remember grace jones? should i show you some examples to refresh your memory of how lady gaga completely jacks her style and writers seem to like not giving grace credit for it ever”

yknow dude? come on. i think a “PROFESSIONAL MUSIC WRITER” should be a little more thorough in their reporting

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Chris — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:07:47 +0000

The idea that you would come to the weblog of a PROFESSIONAL MUSIC WRITER and pretend that he doesn’t know who Grace Jones is, or what her role in music history is, says a lot more about your naivete than Matthew’s, “UUUGH.”

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Matthew Perpetua — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:51:55 +0000

Well, yes, Gaga is part of a lineage that includes Jones. But Minaj is part of a culture that has become more open to this sort of outlandish presentation thanks to the major commercial success of Gaga. So yes, Gaga opened a door for Nicki, but it’s part of a much longer cultural tradition.

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UGHHHH — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:38:56 +0000

i get what you’re saying about nicki minaj. she’s not the “African American answer to Lady Gaga” Lady Gaga is the white american answer to Grace Jones…yea, you know who Grace Jones is? The woman lady gaga modeled her style after aka
http://thestarceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/grace_jones.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Aa3cfm3Dre8/SWo6GHv_ETI/AAAAAAAAAxo/CTY7ngz9HUw/s400/0160_GraceJonesPD-Couch-s.jpg

http://www.harpersbazaar.com/cm/harpersbazaar/images/iC/grace-jones-tophat-de.jpg

http://htmlgiant.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/grace_jones.jpg

http://www.lipsticktracez.com/yasmine/grace-jones.jpg

I HATE when blog writers compare nicki minaj as the black lady gaga. Lady gaga is the white grace jones. can we talk about pop history and go back a little further than the past five years?

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PaigeYou'reWrong — Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:05:33 +0000

They aren’t in a minstrel, that term and concept is so irrelevant its unbelievable.
Besides if you say that, arguably all famous black Americans are in a minstrel show because they are all atheletes, actors and singers, performing for white America.
But that would just be ideological Black Studies’ idiocy imo.

Chillax, that term woulda been used about a white person, and the mere SIMILARITY of the concept jester to “minstrel” (which wasn’t necessarily about humour btw) is…

you’re just wrong mmkay on SO many levels!