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Rob Sheffield: Yeah. See, I still haven't heard that Joanna Newsom record because I had trouble getting the last one -- loved the first -- and so I thought, I'll let my friends who are big fans, and critics who are big fans, sort this one out, tell me how to get into this record, where to start, what to keep in mind, BUY Cloxazolam ONLINE NO PRESCRIPTION. So I thought, Online buying Cloxazolam hcl, I'll wait to listen and see what people are saying a few weeks from now, and what happened is, a few weeks later, nobody was writing about that album any more. So I want to read something like "Okay, buy Cloxazolam online no prescription, I've been listening to this record for 6 months, and here's what I think." But all the reviews of that record. Late February, Cloxazolam gel, ointment, cream, pill, spray, continuous-release, extended-release, and they're all based on a week of speed-listening.

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He Miss Road says:

The last record i bought first day in a record store was “Californication” on Newbury St…

8/18/10 8:31 am

Martin says:

The only time I ever had that experience, of being in a record store on the first day and hearing the album in the store was for Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain. It’s difficult now to reconstruct just how different that album was from what had come before it. Pavement was super enigmatic then, and scratchy, and Malkmus’s voice had more flatness to it, so I’m in the store wondering if today is the day (I was in Europe, at a tiny little record shop, so the date was more fluid), I’d been waiting for quite a while and checking in whenever I had a chance. So I go in and “Stop Breathing” is on, and I’m like “I may be crazy, but … Is this SM? … I think this might be SM!” It was such a large leap from, say, “Perfume-V.”

8/18/10 8:41 am

Bob K. says:

Great discussion! I too am tired of the quick hype cycle. Most of my favorite albums are usually six months old, and I love taking songs that have nothing in common with my life (like, say, VW’s “Taxi Cab” and Beach House’s “Silver Soul”) and sort of nurturing a relationship with them until they are intensely personal in ways that artists never, ever intended.

Glad you talked about LCD so much in this context. My marriage nearly imploded in the past month and that album is excruciating to listen to: raw, personal, and very very dark. It blows my mind that a lot of people (I gather from what I’ve read), even huge fans of the record, see it as a somewhat airy, fun trifle. “Drunk Girls” is the best example: it was immediately dismissed as a throwaway gag and even a bad song — lines about waiting an hour to pee don’t help, I know — but to anyone who’s lived an extended anxiety attack in the midst of real relationship woes knows that song is an open wound, musically and lyrically. Hell, I even think the “waiting to pee” line is loaded with additional meaning. So whatever.

Bottom line: I think, generally speaking, the hype cycle has made us fairly deaf and not particularly imaginative as listeners.

8/18/10 9:08 am

Matthew Perpetua says:

Here is the precise line in “Drunk Girls” that makes the song devastating and of a piece with the entire album:

“Drunk girls know that love is an astronaut / it comes back but it’s never the same.”

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Lodger says:

“Drunk Girls” is a lesser version of the Stones “Where the Boys” all go…I think bands have that advantage when it comes to dumb little throwaways…

8/18/10 10:05 am

The line that slays me in “Drunk Girls” is “Sometimes love gives you too many options / Just cause you’re hungry doesn’t mean that you’re lean.” Really an incisive, almost beautiful, statement.

But the astronaut line is sensational, and you’re right, perhaps the portal into the entire album. I like how he doesn’t specify if “never the same” is a good thing or a bad thing. I’m sure many listeners feel it’s a bad thing, and he may have intended it that way, but I’m not entirely sure. It’s comforting that love comes back AND that it evolves and grows.

8/18/10 10:42 am

Teenageart says:

It’s funny how “Drunk Girls” came up in a discussion of how the Internet age consumes and throws away - the song AND video address this very issue. The song is not about getting the party started, but the loneliness of parties. It hides its true meaning between the shouted and endless repetition of the words “Drunk Girls” - the verses are like a running commentary on an empty, misogynistic radio pop song. Unless you are paying attention, you are going to miss its satiric, anguished heart. James Murphy wants you to read the meaning that is literally between the lines, but he knows that most people will only hear “Drunk Girls! Drunk Girls!” cause that’s all they can be bothered to hear.

8/18/10 10:50 am

Afrobutterfly says:

Great interview. I never knew about the differences in the “Wowee Zowee” advance - definitely explains the poor reviews. And the last record I bought on the first day of its release was… “Backspacer,” actually. Just a fanatical PJ thing, I guess.

8/18/10 7:00 pm

riyadh says:

Sheffield is so right about pop culture still reeling from the shock of the transition from Clinton to Bush. What I find so sad and depressing is the fact that the only protest songs I can think of from the 00’s are Sleater-Kinney’s “Combat Rock” and Bright Eyes’ “When The President Talks To God.” It was one of the most fucked up decades and everybody just went along with it.

8/18/10 8:30 pm

hiddenex says:

so true about new albums falling out of style/hype quickly. i got the morning benders ‘big echo’ back in march but only recently has it started to open up for me. i’m getting into the slower songs, really appreciating the sound of the record…but the conversation seems to have moved on

8/18/10 9:14 pm

Dan says:

@riyadh: I think Neon Bible can be seen as a strong critical response to the Bush years (and that in this regard it’s somewhat underrated). I’m betting that, in 20 years, people will be able to get a sense of what “the great unraveling” was like when viewed from the inside by listening to that album.

8/19/10 1:29 am

Orlando says:

“But it’s never the same.” Sure, so lovely that a relationship can come back, strong and growing, bright, yes, and shinier than ever. Give an arm (Armacost) for that sensation to be reality. Associations with Johnny Depp, actor, in popular culture aside, what makes this line so shattering, I believe, is James Murphy’s ability to weld fairy-tale premonitions (AKA Rosemary’s Baby) with obvious truths and equal emotional response (AKA what could have been / the road less travelled). Popular culture and private relationship, what could be more appealing? The line cited by MP is not necessarily negative, but where are the positive edges silvering? “We are not now that strength which in old days / Moved earth and heaven.” No matter how awesome the continuing relationship is and will be, it will never be again that fresh fair fine outburst of mutual recognition. And damn you, James Murphy, for making me want to cry even as I realize the richness of what I have. JM consistently finds, as artists like Owen Ashworth do, that fine point of entry in a relationship which speaks equally to each person in the relationship and to the relationship itself. And what’s worth more than the connection and growing / fading electricity of a relationship? Which is why, twenty years from now, some girl (or guy) will be interviewing some other guy (or girl) about their book, How To Talk To Girls (Or Guys) About LCD Soundsystem.

8/23/10 9:13 pm

lizzy says:

This whole series is excellent, Matthew, but this segment in particular I thought was really great - maybe because I really identify with everything discussed here (getting the album on release day and listening to it exclusively and obsessively for months; what the hell happened to feminism).

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